Welcome back to Young Heretics Conversations. This is the Friday interview series

that I've introduced this year as part of the ever-growing Young Hertics empire. There's the sub-stack if you want to subscribe there.

There's our Tuesday weekly episodes about the great works of the West. Those remain the core of the

enterprise and always will, but there are also now these

Friday chats that I get to have with people whose work I have admired and

appreciated folks that you've written in and said you'd like to hear a conversation with just a

range of people that are out putting pedal to the metal, putting rubber to the road

whatever metaphor you want to use, actually applying and putting into action some

of the big ideas that we're talking about.

Because it is essential, I think, and that's why I do the show the way I do, it's essential

to actually read the great works, to discuss what they mean, to relate them to our own lives, but it's also important to see examples of people in action, what this all might mean specifically in this or that context.

And my guest today has a real track record of dealing in that practical way with questions of education, classical education. of Senior Policy analyst at the International Women's Forum.

She's got a podcast there called High Noon,

which I've appeared on a couple times.

Always great to have a conversation with her.

A friend of mine, but she's also one of the foremost

education policy analysts out there.

She's written not just for the American mind but for the Federalist, the Wall Street Journal.

She's appeared on Fox News, PBS, C-SPAN.

She's been all around. You've probably seen her if you follow this these kinds of issues at all.

She's great on the terrible corruption of the teachers unions. She's also got a really cool proposal out there to

tax the universities to pay for student loan forgiveness rather than just taking

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