What is going on with men? And for that matter, what on earth is going on with women?

What's going on with men and women? That's the subject of our young heretics conversation this week.

I'm really excited to talk to my friend Helen Roy.

She has been a friend for a while.

She writes a fair bit at The American Mind,

which is one of the publications of the Claremont Institute

that I helped to edit.

But she does a lot of other stuff besides that as well,

which we're going to get into talking about and

I wanted to have her on because we're at a very interesting, dangerous and strange moment

in what has come to be known as the war or the battle between the sexes.

And if you've listened to this podcast for any length of time, you know that I have very little truck with feminism of any variety basically post suffrage

and that's because I think it presents a degraded and dishonest picture of women and men and I'm going to talk to Helen about this you know

feminism of of its various permutations and forms has really

destroyed our sense of what it means to have masculine and feminine virtue distinctively, each in the manner appropriate to the sexes.

When we talked about virtue, and I talked about courage, especially I talked about the different ways in which our human nature

finds its expression in our maleness and femaleness.

These are things that are now totally retrograde and unpopular to say, and yet they're true. They remain true.

No amount of wishing them away is going to stop them from existing. No political

program can erase them or undo them and so because they remain true, trying to deny them has driven people

insane. And predictably, I think, in that story as part of that process

feminism has created a backlash and now that backlash has a life of its own

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