All right. And joining us now is Guy Relford with the law offices of Guy Relford and

Carmel, Indiana. And he also has a local radio show there. And one of his most recent shows,

he was talking about the new moves by, and this is actually

being driven out of a New York, I believe, Guy, where they have demanded these codes so that

you can see what people are buying, you know, that they're buying from gun shops and essentially

track any kind of ammunition or gun purchases.

But this is part of a bigger agenda to try to identify anything that they want to control.

And of course, controlling speech and controlling guns is right there at the top of this.

So joining us now is Guy Relford. Thank you so much for joining us.

It's my pleasure, David. It's a pleasure to be here. Well, thank you. Yeah, let's talk a little

bit about that. What have you seen in terms of these kind of financial controls? Because that's one

aspect of it. And it was the first one that was done back into the Obama administration.

They started talking about Operation Choke Point, where they're going to

shut down the ability to access things financially. I've been shut down from PayPal because I talk

about the vaccines and I talk about other things that don't like me to talk about, like gun freedom.

So, you know, this kind of financial control is now spreading and metastasizing in a very real way,

isn't it?

Well, it really is. And as you mentioned, Operation choke point was a very defined, very deliberate effort to go after the Second Amendment by attacking Second Amendment related businesses.

And the whole idea is if we can put the gun industry out of business, we can put all the gun stores out of business, then we can essentially do what we haven't been able to do in the legislatures, which is to eradicate Second Amendment rights in America.

I mean, that's what they're clearly attempting to do. And they don't apologize for that, and they're very specific about it but it's really started with

going to financial institutions as you mentioned david um and saying you know you just shouldn't do

business with any business that's associated with selling guns or even get this i'm also in addition

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