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Hi, Podlitical listeners.

Just a quick note to say that we recorded this episode on the 3rd of October.

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Hi, you're listening to Podlitical, BBC Scotland's podcast that brings you an inside look at the big stories coming out of Holyrood and Westminster.

I'm Lucy White, a journalist based in Glasgow, and Phil is in Edinburgh.

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Hello, I am in Edinburgh.

You are in Edinburgh.

This is another one of our interview episodes today.

You can listen back in our feed to lots of them

we've done so far last time we spoke to the SNP MP Amy Callahan and there are lots more to come

but today we're speaking to Gillian mackay who's the green MSP for central Scotland hello there

hello Jillian I have to say I picked up on a bit of your chat you were having there with Phil just before we started recording and you're saying we've got recess.

Is that a kind of you guys can let me know you're both in Hollywood? Is that a sort of collective sigh of relief from everyone as you head towards recess?

I think it usually is across the board. Myself, mother half, get married two

weeks on Saturday. Okay, so no signs for recess. We get married on the Saturday and I'll be

back on committee on Tuesday morning. So I feel like that's a bad piece of organisation on my part.

But yeah, October recess was a band word in our corridor for the last six weeks so yeah it's but

certainly there's plenty of folk trying to get wee bit downtime ahead of that that run into the

other band word Christmas I know I can't believe it already we're wanting to find out a little bit

about kind of what makes you tick politically. Gillian, you've not long been

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