Hello, everybody, and welcome to another Cana Rince interview extra special edition and all that,

with, I think, possibly the first Greek guest we've ever had on Cana Rince.

So it's welcome to Cana Rince, game urbanist, designer, Constantinos Dimopoulos.

Welcome to the podcast.

Bye, thank you very much.

Lovely being here.

And, yes, I think I'm the first clip on your podcast, which is, wow.

It's an honor.

It is, it is.

The honor is online.

We haven't got around all the, all the nations of the world yet, but someday.

So, you emailed us some weeks back before, and I hadn't, I hadn't heard of the project,

but since then, since we spoke and we said, oh, you know, we'll schedule an email,

sorry, we'll schedule an interview a few weeks down the line when we're both free. Since then,

I've seen your book everywhere. Like, you obviously emailed all the right people and everyone got interested because

Virtual Cities has been featured on what, Kataku and Eurogamer and various other sites around

the internet, a very successful press release.

Indeed, though I have to admit that I attribute this mostly, you know, a multitude of good

friends and people who apparently like me for no discernible reason, because people have

been spreading the world quite a bit. Yeah. And you, you're really kind to my PR abilities and everything.

But to be honest, I think I must have actually emailed 20 or 25 places.

Yeah.

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