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Interview: Dr. Bob Edelman on Sports and Politics in Ukraine and Russia

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Sports

4.5729 Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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In this episode, Brenda Elsey interviews Dr. Robert Edelman, professor of Russian history and the history of sport at the University of California San Diego. They discuss the Russian and Ukrainian sports communities’ responses to the invasion, how athletes and fans might turn the tide of sportwashing and the ways sports can both reveal and and mask geopolitical conflict. This episode was produced by Tressa Versteeg. Shelby Weldon is our social media and website specialist. Burn It All Down is part of the Blue Wire podcast network. For show notes, transcripts, and more info about BIAD, check out our website: www.burnitalldownpod.com To help support the Burn It All Down podcast, please consider becoming a patron: www.patreon.com/burnitalldown For BIAD merchandise: https://www.bonfire.com/store/burn-it-all-down/ Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/BurnItDownPod; Facebook: www.facebook.com/BurnItAllDownPod/; and Instagram: www.instagram.com/burnitalldownpod/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to burn it all down. I'm really excited today to be

0:10.0

it all down. It's the feminist sports podcast you need. I'm Brenda Elsie, and I'm really excited

0:17.6

today to be talking with Dr. Bob Edelman. He's a professor of Russian history

0:22.9

and the history of sports at University of California, San Diego. And he's been kind enough

0:28.4

to share with us some of his expertise given the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine.

0:37.2

And we're going to talk about its relationship to sports,

0:40.7

solidarity in sports, athlete activism, et cetera. So welcome to the show, Bob. It's great to see

0:47.8

you. It's great to be here. Right now I'm wearing a Chernomorias-Ad a shirt for their soccer team there.

0:55.5

Okay. So I wanted to start off. There's, there's a few places that we could start, but I'd

1:02.0

like to start off with this one particular athlete that we're hearing a lot about, who is a striker for

1:08.4

Dynamo Federer Smoloff.

1:11.8

Oh, sure.

1:12.5

Who plays for the Russian national team

1:14.6

and was one of the first that we read from Russia

1:17.2

to speak out against the invasion.

1:21.2

I'm wondering how common that is,

1:24.5

what affects you think that type of activism has or your reactions to that?

1:30.8

I know him well. I know his game well. I know the strengths and weaknesses of that game.

1:37.3

And I was surprised. I really didn't know anything about him as a political actor at all.

1:41.9

It's the only case that I've seen so far, but I don't think it's

1:45.8

going to be that extensive among Russian players. I do am interested in, let's say, in what the

1:53.6

foreign players on these various teams are going to be doing in the near future. And that is,

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