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Hello and welcome to the price of football,

the show that looks at the money behind the beautiful game with me,

Kevin Day and Liverpool University's Kiran Maguire.

We're here with an extra for you and an extra interview pod,

which we like to bring, Overtreide, as they used to say down the East Ender Cure and Overtreide.

And Kiran recently we've been discussing quite a lot the idea of new business models,

new ways of running football clubs.

And we've talked about it in England.

And we thought it was time to talk about a club in Scotland that's doing things in a very different way,

a very good way, I think.

So we spoke to Chris Ewing, who's the founder and the owner of Caledonian

Braves.

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