All right, joining us now is Ken Valentine.

He has worked in the Secret Service.

He worked under three presidential Secret Service details.

We'll find out how many years he worked with him.

But there was an excellent quote from Dan Bongino in support of his book.

I haven't read his book, but I wanted to get him on because he wants to talk about his

view of life.

What that gave him working in Secret Service is called Cheating Death.

Dan Bongino said this about his book.

He said, there's three people I've met in my life who've had as deep

of an impact on me as Secret Service agent Ken Valentine. His new book, Cheating Death, is a

masterpiece about leadership and perspective in a difficult world. His stories from his time

of the Secret Service are overlaid with leadership and with life lessons that he learned in a way that readers

will embrace and appreciate. So I'm very interested to talk to him, even though I haven't seen

the book. So welcome Ken Valentine. Thank you for joining us. Yes, sir. Proud to be with you.

Thank you. Tell us a little bit about, first of all, how long you were there under three different

presidents? How long did you work for the Secret Service?

Sure.

Well, my career span from 1996 to 2020, so 24 years with the service, I was on the president's

detail two times for a total of 10 years, started at the end of Bill Clinton's term.

So I was with him for his last year, and then

the first four years with President George W. Bush bounced around the country and headquarters

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