Interview: Cancellation Island, with John Cameron Mitchell, Part Two: Action, Praxis, Presence and Poetry

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

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🗓️ 16 May 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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In a world where everyone feels divided by identity politics, ideology and the fear of cancellation, how does an individual navigate a cultural minefield? How can we empower and encourage direct action? In the second part of this two-part interview segment, Ben, Matt and Noel welcome returning guest John Cameron Mitchell for a wide-ranging exploration of the occult, Discordianism, saving innocent people and more.

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0:00.0	From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events.
0:06.9	You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know.
0:12.0	A production of IHeart Radio.
0:23.7	Hello, welcome back to the show.
0:24.5	My name is Matt.
0:25.2	My name is Noel.
0:26.5	They call me Ben.
0:30.5	We're joined as always with our super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee pal Fagan.
0:33.4	Most importantly, you are you, you are here.
0:36.6	That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.
0:42.8	This is part two of a continuing conversation with Friend of the Show, the legendary John Cameron Mitchell.
0:47.5	Please, please, please tune into part one before you travel to part two.
0:49.2	Yeah, God knows where we landed.
0:50.8	We're going to start this one off.
0:52.8	We covered so many amazing topics with John.
0:53.7	Oh, yeah.
0:55.0	And one of the things we're talking about specifically is his show cancellation island that you can listen to you right now if you want to.
1:00.0	It's brought to us by Topic Studios, you guys. I looked them up. They also produced a like a television
1:07.1	documentary called Risk back in 2017 about Julian Assange.
1:12.1	And it was the Laura Poitris thing that was just so interesting to see the inner workings of that dude.
1:18.4	It's cool that they are also producing this project.
1:20.7	They also had a hand in a little movie that I believe won a couple Oscars this year called A Real Pain with Jesse Eisenberg and the Culkin, the medium
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