Interview: Cancellation Island, with John Cameron Mitchell, Part One: The Lost Art of Gnostic Nuance

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

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🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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What does it mean to be 'canceled'? How do we collectively navigate the baffling, complex and contradictory world of an 'always-on' society? In the first part of this week's special two-part interview, Ben, Matt and Noel welcome the legendary writer, actor, playwright and activist, John Cameron Mitchell, creator of Cancellation Island, for a wide-ranging conversation on everything from lizard people to gnosticism, the power of language, Aleister Crowley and everything in between.

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0:00.0	From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events.
0:06.9	You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know.
0:12.0	A production of IHeart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.
0:26.4	My name is Matt.
0:27.1	My name is Noel.
0:28.2	They call me Ben.
0:29.5	We're joined, as always, with our super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee pal Fagin.
0:34.1	Most importantly, you are you.
0:36.2	You are here.
0:37.4	That makes this the stuff they don't want
0:40.3	you to know, friends, neighbors, fellow conspiracy realists. It is no secret that modern
0:45.6	society is diplomatically put complicated. You know, it wasn't too long ago that it seemed
0:53.3	almost everyone was getting quote unquote canceled for all manner of things.
1:00.6	Concerns, competing interest, moving at a rapid pace, what can or cannot be said, what can or cannot be asked.
1:08.4	And of course, what's up with all those lizard people?
1:12.4	Well, yeah.
1:13.2	We're also in a time where conspiracy theories are far more mainstream than they have ever been.
1:19.1	And you put those things together, and you just, you got a wacky reality we're all hanging out in right now.
1:25.6	Right.
1:25.9	It's tough.
1:26.5	Yeah.
1:26.9	When the White House press briefing room is full of quote-unquote influencers who are often
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