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and we're being joined by Braden Gall.

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Okay, Braden, bowl season is upon us. We've got three Big 12 SEC matchups, but just in general,

when we talk about the hierarchy of the Power 5 conferences, how much stock do you put into

the bowl games on that front? Literally nothing, man. I don't think that the outcomes of

bowl games are way overvalued. Getting to a bowl game is incredibly important, you know, especially for a guy like

Chris Klyman, you know, at Kansas State in his first year to get his team to a bowl game,

I think is incredibly important. You get the extra practice time, you sell recruits on a trip,

you make a little extra coin, maybe, if you can sell your tickets. But I think fans, because

they don't really watch any other conference outside of

their own, they assume that because, you know, the SEC went eight and two in bowl games,

or the Big Ten went five and three, or, you know, whatever, that that somehow made them a better

or worse conference than somebody else, and I just don't think that's the way it is. But, you know,

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