La La, La, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

All right, friends, Greg Kokel here on Stand to Reason, and glad you joined us today.

My guest is the wonderful Elisa Childers.

I'm chuckling Elisa because of the crowing rooster that introduces the show.

And I was just at your place.

What, a week ago.

And you've got crowing roosters around your farm.

So anyway. The crowing rooster on your show, I've always wondered, that's human, right?

That's this human.

This, okay.

It's me.

Yeah, that's right.

I was playing around once back in the days of commercial radio with KBRT and making noises and animal sounds and somebody recorded it, and then it became part of the show when it's been there ever since.

35 years now.

So anyway, Alisa Childers, author of Another Gospel, Deconstructing Christianity with Tim Barnett on our team, Live Your

Truth and Other lies, and now you've got another gospel in the student edition. We're

going to talk about that, but I have the distinct honor, I think, of saying that I knew you

when you were just a pup in all of this stuff, you know?

Yeah.

I met you first at CIA, and then when we got to know each other a little bit better, at Advanced CIA.

You had a blog then, I think, but you weren't a podcaster.

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