All right, welcome back.

And joining us now is Jack Lawson.

And it was about a week or two ago we had him on.

These are his books.

He actually puts him out in two volumes.

He wants to make sure that it is in a physical copy because you never know what's going

to happen to the grid or to the internet.

But it is very comprehensive on an unbelievable number of topics

hygiene sanitation caring for the dead how to grow your own food and how to

defend yourself you'll find it at civil defense manual.com joining us now is

Jack Lawson good to have you on again, Jack.

It's always good to be in your show, David. We were talking during the break, and you said

you wanted to say something to the family, Baker, baby Michael. I was listening to your

broadcast about saying a prayer, which I did for baby Michael.

But I think what's critical for the parents to understand, we had a severely premature daughter,

almost lost her, and the long and short of it is she survived with no birth defect and she became the

national fitness final out of 4,000-some girls in Los Angeles.

Wow.

So we were very, very proud of that, and we thought she had escaped birth defects but uh she uh she had a got pregnant

had a baby and uh she was one of five or six women they've recorded in the world that had two

uterus and the baby was in the wrong one the underdeveloped

one she lost that baby went on they have two other beautiful healthy babies but uh you know the the good

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