All right, welcome back and joining us now is David Davenport.

As I said before, his research fellow emeritus at the Hoover Institute.

He's out in California.

He told me this is breakfast time there for him, so it's pretty early there.

He specializes in constitutional federalism, civic education, modern American conservatism, and international law.

During his career at Hoover, he also served in administrative capacities as counselor to the director and the inaugural director of Hoover's Washington, D.C. program.

Former president of Pepperdine University.

And under his leadership there at Pepper 9, the university

experienced significant growth in quality and reputation. He is a co-author of a new book,

A Republic If We Can Teach It, Fixing America's Civic Education Crisis. His co-author is Jeffrey

Sikinga, if I pronounce that correctly. If I'm not,

you can correct me, David. Thank you for coming on. And of course, when we look at what

is happening on the college campuses, we got some real problems. And I guess the question is,

you know, what do we, where do we start? And I think you would start to direct us

towards some of the civics stuff. Tell us a little bit about that and welcome. Thank you for coming on.

Yes, good to be with you. Our sense in writing this book is that if civic education, the poor

state of civic education didn't cause some of our current problems.

They could at least be a solution.

And I think most Americans are not aware of just how poorly students are being taught civic education.

There's very little taught, if any, these days, unlike in perhaps you're in my day,

uh, in the elementary and middle schools. In high school, there's generally just a single,

one semester course, which is kind of too little too late. Yeah. As you point out on college campuses,

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