Joining us now is Gary Benoit.

He has been working with the New American for nearly 50 years, just at the cusp of it.

He is now the editor-in-chief of the New American, the publication of the John Birch Society.

We're going to talk to him about his book.

I really like the title of this, The John Birch Society, The Vanguard of the Americanist Cause.

I think that's a great way to put it, and I think it's a good description of what they do.

But we're going to begin by talking about the constitutional issues about declaring

war, since we're looking at this Iran war. Thank you for joining us, Gary. Oh, thank you. I'm so

happy being on your program, David. Well, thank you. You know, when we look at this, we've talked

about so many different aspects. The number one issue for me personally is the moral issue, but of course,

there's practical issues involved

with all of this. There's also legal issues, which we're going to talk about. But the only

thing they seem to be interested in is lethal issues. How many people can we kill? That's

what we hear from Pete Hankseth all the time. You always wants to talk about lethality, lethality.

But it never talks about legality that is there.

So let's talk a little bit about the Constitution and war because we've had a slight

pushback from the House and from the Senate on this.

And, of course, with the War Powers Act, the president was supposed to,

once they initiate acts of war against another country, they're supposed to notify Congress

within 48 hours. So they had Rubio go over and talk to the gang of eight, a term which I cannot

find in the Constitution. Maybe you know it, where it is in the Constitution. I can't find it.

And so he talks to the leaders of the two different parties and a couple of other people and

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