Welcome to the Delling Pod with me, James Dellingpov.

And I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest, but look, behold, before me, it is one of your most requested guests.

It's James Corbett, presenter of the Corbett Report. James, welcome to the Dudling Pod.

Thank you for having me here, James.

And let me just hijack the conversation immediately off the top to note how interesting it is that we are here engaged in this televideo conversation.

Because, as you may or may not know, since the very inception of my work over at corporate report.com,

I've been covering the climate science mess,

including ClimateGate and everything I was running climategate.combe at one point.

So I am very familiar with your work on that issue

and have been for a long time.

However, I never thought that we would actually connect like this, because,

and I do not mean this as a slight against you, more so as a slight against my own obvious

lack of judgment of character, but I thought you seemed a little bit too mainstream in a lot of

your ideas to ever entertain talking to someone like myself, and yet here I am. So thank you

very much for having me here.

James, that's really weird. I think there's going to, so many people, particularly, I suppose

my newer listeners, are surprised by my turn of direction because I was. I mean, I'm probably, I'm probably the most mainstream guy

who's now in the realm that might, well, I think we know the word. Let's let's not use it.

Let's let's not, let's not demean our work because we know that we are, we're just seekers

after truth. Yeah, I think that climate change was my

gateway drug as well to, to where we are. I mean, you remember I wrote that book, Watermelons,

and I set out to answer the question, sorry, this is now you interviewing me, but I just

...