Some people don't take UFOs seriously, but our guest today does. I'm talking about Dr.

Avi Loeb. Now, in case you didn't know, Dr. Loeb is not just some average Joe. He's the longest

serving chair of Harvard University's Department of Astronomy, and he'll guest with us today

on the Paranormal Podcast.

This is the Paranormal Podcast with Jim Herald.

Welcome to the Paranormal Podcast. I'm Jim Herald. So glad to be with you once again.

And today is a red letter day because we have a fantastic guest. I'm talking about Dr. Avi Loeb.

He is the longest serving chair of Harvard University's Department of Astronomy. He's

founding director of Harvard's Black Hole Initiative and current director of the Institute for

Theory and Computation within the Center for Astrophysics at Harvard and Smithsonian. He also

heads the Galileo Project. Chairs the Advisory Committee for the Breakthrough

Starshot Initiative and his former chair of the Board on Physics and Astronomy of the National

Academies. These are just some of his credentials. His newest book is Interstellar, the search for

extra-terrestrial life and our future in the stars. Dr. Avi Loeb, thank you for joining us today.

Thanks for having me. It's a great pleasure.

So Dr. Loeb, last time we spoke, we talked a lot about Amua Mua, which was an object

that passed close by Earth and was possibly of interstellar origin. And it seemed like an

opportunity missed, possibly, by us to find out more about that object. But recently, there

been other objects. And I'm talking about I am one and I am two. And in the case of I am one,

definitely, there is not an opportunity missed because as I understand it was a meteor that crashed

into the ocean and you let an expedition to recover remnants of it and there's testing on it,

going on it now, I believe. Can you tell us what I am one is about that expedition and where

...