Hi, I'm Dana Stephen, Slate's movie critic, here with a Slate spoiler special podcast on Christopher

Nolan's Interstellar, the new space epic from The Dark Night director.

Joining me in the studio is Forrest Wickman. Hey, Forrest.

Hey, Dana. You are a slate contributor, editor, writer, and also a big Christopher Nolan fan, I gather.

I am, which often in turn just means a Christopher Nolan defender. I feel like a lot of times.

Yeah, he occupies a strange place in terms of reputation of major directors right now in that I feel like everyone agrees that he's somehow important and respects him.

And yet lots of people find that he's not to their personal taste.

And I think in general that I would be one of those viewers.

I think the things that,

you know, people mock about Christopher Nolan movies are sometimes the things that make me

inadvertently chuckle in his movies and did occasionally an interstellar as well. But interstellar is a

big, complicated, juicy example of a Chris Nolan movie to talk about because it did, unlike the

Dark Night movies, is not an adaptation it's an original

idea created by him and his brother Jonathan who wrote the script and and it goes out on a

lot of strange intellectual and aesthetic limbs so even though I didn't love it I feel

like it offers so much to talk about and there are definitely things that I loved

about it but you in general were a fan yeah I was a big fan of this movie I agree

it's definitely a mixed bag.

I suspect we'll agree about a lot of the things we didn't like about it.

Dialogue has never been.

Christopher Nolan or Jonathan Nolan's strength, really.

And yet they have so much of it.

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