Hello and welcome to late night women's hour with me, Emma Barnett.

And sitting around this magnificent table are some suitably magnificent women.

So who do we have for this conversational bonanza?

Let me tell you.

The writer and founder of Women Who, a professional women's network, Attega Uagba,

the journalist, author and mental health campaigner Brianie Gordon, hello,

and the author and guilty feminist podcaster Deborah Francis White.

Hello.

Hello. Hello. Hello to all of you. Thank you very much for joining us.

Attega, you want to talk about intersectionality and white feminism because of a specific story in the news.

Before you do that, in a line, what's intersectionality?

I was about to ask that.

Okay.

Intersectionality and intersectional feminism is just understanding that there are different layers of oppression that women experience.

So if you are white women, the way in which you experience discrimination, there are different layers of oppression that women experience.

So if you are a white woman, the way in which you experience discrimination or sexism is different from the way that a woman of color might or a trans woman might or a non-siss woman might or, you know, a gay woman, just essentially realizing that people who fall out of the sort of white, straight paradigm, have different experiences. It's really interesting that I, and I'm

saying this as a white, you know, that shows my white privilege that I don't really know what

intersectionality means, doesn't it? Well, no, I think it's good to ask though, because a lot of

people just, not long, you know, I'm not scared to ask questions if I don't.

No, I always think it's, I always think it's really important to ask questions.

And that's why I also wanted you to define it, because we're going to talk about it.

Lots of people might also be pausing this and Googling it.

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