Hello and welcome to another episode of Interregnum with Richard Seymour.

Today I spoke with Richard about the Conservative Party leadership election and the legacy of

Boris Johnson. We talked about which Conservative candidate has the most dangerous agenda,

why it is that both Labour and the Conservative seem so intellectually adrift, and finally Richard

explained why the presence of several

BAME candidates in the election can't simply be dismissed as mere Tory tokenism.

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So at the time of recording, the frontrunners for the Conservative Party leadership campaign

are the former Chancellor Rishi Sunak, Penny Morden and Liz Truss. Writing in The Guardian,

Owen Jones wrote that being asked to choose the least worst Tory to run the country is like

being confronted with a smorgasbord of bacterial infections and weighing up the different

symptoms and, frankly, risk of fatality.

Which of the candidates do you think has the most dangerous agenda, and which of them do you

think is most likely to be able to win an election in two years' time? Obviously, those two things

might not coincide. That's a good question. I mean, the most demented, as far as I can see, is Kimmy Badenock,

but Suella Breverman runs quite close. I think the least dangerous, but also someone who's

highly likely to win, is Liz Truss. I say least dangerous, not because she isn't toxic and opportunistic enough to

ramp up the culture wars and ramp up racism and so on, but because she is, you know, demonstrably,

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