Hey, these are even listeners. Today's episode is going to be a deep dive on

interpersonal therapy. And this episode is going to be for patrons only. So if

you want to listen to this, you have to become a patron of the podcast on

patreon.com. So for years now, I've been calling myself an interpersonal

therapist. I mean, really when people ask me what theory I use, I'll say, well,

I integrate several theories. You know, I integrate many, many theories,

actually. I love theory. And I find that most, if not all, theories have value.

And I find that each of them addresses a different corner of psychology and

psychotherapy. And so I like to integrate and blend all of them, depending on

the situation. But when pressed, if someone said, okay, well, if you had to pick

one, what would it be for the past, I don't know, number of years, I've been

saying interpersonal. And thus, I've been wanting to work on this deep dive

for a long time. I have been working on this deep dive for years, actually.

I mean, I've been working on it more in earnest over the past, you know,

three or four months or something. But I've been wanting to do this episode

for a long time. So I decided to sit down a few months ago and really start

researching all the different histories and the literature and the research

and all the different contributors to interpersonal therapy. And as I was

working on my notes, I started realizing, wait, I don't know if, am I really an

interpersonal therapist? Maybe I didn't understand interpersonal therapy

the way that it really is. And it started to frustrate me because I thought,

have I been calling myself something that isn't true this whole time?

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