Welcome back to Out of this World and I'm here with our good friend Hesher from Alternate Current Radio and it's your first time here on this channel and we are glad to have you because you're an old friend of ours and you're the perfect person to have on after this deluge of files that we just got released to us

and everyone's scrambling going through these things and there's so much it's kind of like

a mandel brought like the more you zoom in the more it like blossoms into more things you're like

there are so many rabbit holes that we can go down and um this one it's going to be crazy

because of all the names that came up in the files i don't know if you guys knew this one but

one was moot m o tO-O-O-T.

Why does that sound familiar to me? Remind me.

Mood is the creator of 4chan.

Okay, there you go.

Yes. So this kind of like neurons were firing in my brain, and it seems like Epstein and 4chan were steering the alt-right

and Glane and Reddit were steering the left. So it's this big octopus of siops.

And so what I want you guys all to remember,

and that's why Hesher is a perfect person for this

because, number one, I trust you.

We've known you so long.

We've been on your show so many times.

You and Sfor are really good friends.

Normal, reasonable, you know, all of the good things

that a content creator should be, right? So...

One would hope.

And I wanted Hesha come on with me to, so this was the perfect subject.

So this show is called Internet Hate Machine.

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