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A Little Bit Culty

International School of Temple Arts (ISTA): Two Insiders Expose Consent, Control, and Cult Dynamics (Part 2)

A Little Bit Culty

Sarah Edmondson & Anthony “Nippy” Ames

Education, Society & Culture

4.63K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In Part 2, we continue our convo with Cara Cardoni and “Lina” about ISTA, the International School of Temple Arts, and the deeper red flags that pushed them to finally leave. Cara and Lina describe how the group used glossy language, spiritual framing, and “consent” rhetoric to obscure coercion, while the reality included harm, manipulation, and a system that made it hard to tell what was actually happening.


They speak about the moment each of them saw the organization more clearly: Cara describes finding a survivor Facebook group, learning about patterns of abuse, and realizing when she raised concerns, she was DARVOd (Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender, a manipulation tactic used to evade accountability). 


Lina shares the devastating account of being raped at an ISTA retreat, the years it took her to name it as rape, and the way ISTA’s response, including NDA pressure and refund games, exposed the hypocrisy beneath the “healing” branding. They also dig into the bigger system around ISTA, including labor exploitation, sex work versus trafficking, temple trainings as a funnel, and the overlap with other guru-led communities. The message is clear: if something feels off, leave, because these groups are built to exploit the very human instinct to belong.


Also read The Cut’s article, “The Neo-Tantric Sex Group That Promised to Change,” for background on ISTA and Lina’s story. Check out Safer Sex-Positive & Spiritual Communities (3SC) at 3sc.community and Cara Cardoni’s Substack, and podcast, Fool's Gold: Discernment in the Age of Grift, on YouTube or where you listen to your pods.


Trigger warning: This episode contains frank discussion of sexual assault, rape, coercive control, manipulation, gaslighting, emotional abuse, cultic behavior, trauma, labor exploitation, sex trafficking, and references to suicidal ideation.


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This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, or mental health advice.

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The views and opinions express do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast

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and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business, individual, anyone, or anything.

0:17.0

Music. anything.

0:28.0

I'm Sarah Edmondson.

0:31.1

And I'm Anthony Nippy Ames, and this is a little bit culty.

0:35.8

We woke up from a cult, and that journey was captured in the vow on HBO and in my memoir,

0:36.4

scarred.

0:40.3

Now, in this podcast, we break down the shame and secrets that make these experiences so destructive with honest conversations on how seemingly benign groups can cross into

0:44.7

the cult ofers and how to spot and recover from trouble if it happens to you.

0:48.8

Each week, we bring an expert, survivors, and whistleblowers to explore red flags, resilience,

0:52.9

and even share a few laughs because because sometimes you've got to laugh.

0:56.0

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1:03.0

Welcome to Season 8 of A Little Bit Culty.

1:06.0

Seeking down to the two with the ocean.

1:29.2

All right, everybody, welcome back to part two with Ist and Kara. This has been a fascinating conversation about ISTA.

1:40.2

And before we get into how everybody got out, we were going to just encapsulate a couple more red flags and the final things that caused you both to decide to get the fuck out.

1:41.3

Who wants to go first?

1:42.4

Kara?

1:51.4

So in April of 2022, I attended Level 2. And at the time, I thought it was fine, but it was actually way more harmful than Level 1. But I still was in. I was signed up to be an assistant

2:05.7

another six months later. I was committed to the path. But a couple months later, in Facebook,

2:12.6

one of the facilitators, the one who darvowed me, put up a post and said, I know there's some people who are upset

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