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Hack It Out Golf

Internal vs External Swing Thoughts

Hack It Out Golf

Golf Swing Productions by Mark Crossfield Greg Chalmers and Lou Stagner

Golf, Education, Sports

4.6488 Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

If you're listening to this podcast, there's a good chance you have a swing thought—and there's a pretty high chance that you're thinking about how some part of your body should be moving (or not) during the swing. In this episode, Mark and Greg talk about one of the most important ideas in golf improvement: you can think about something other than your body position during the swing. They discuss the meaning of internal and external focus, when each might be useful, and how an external focus can free you up on the course to hit your best possible shots.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Hackett Out Golf podcast. It's myself and Greg Chalmers today, just me and

0:05.6

Greg. Lou has been called into the office, his favorite place.

0:10.8

Poor fella.

0:11.6

Kicking and screaming. Yeah, not happy.

0:15.7

So Andy Johnson has asked us a question on Facebook. Good question here, Andy. He's asking, Greg,

0:23.8

I get muddled with internal the external thoughts and drills. I'm quite a visual person. So,

0:30.0

for example, if in a lesson I'm told to do a certain movement, I'm visualising that and

0:35.6

almost forget about the ball. How would you recommend

0:38.6

navigating that? Should I just stick to either internal or external thoughts going forwards?

0:46.3

This is something I thought about a lot growing up because I have really played with all of these

0:52.0

ideas. Out of In-, so just for everyone listening,

0:56.1

internal thought would be, let's say I'm trying to get my left shoulder to a position.

1:02.7

I'm going to like just internally visualize as I'm swinging.

1:06.7

I'm not even thinking about the ball or thinking about where it's going so much, maybe,

1:12.6

but I think that could be debated, which we'll talk about today.

1:15.8

Or if I'm trying to move my hands in a certain way above my head where I can't see,

1:19.6

I'm like really visualising it.

1:21.7

I explained it once almost like I see myself kind of stood next to myself,

1:27.3

looking at myself is what I kind of can see in my mind's eye, because I've used video basically all my life in my swing.

1:35.3

I can very much visualize where certain bits are or put myself outside of me looking in.

1:41.9

It would be internal. External thoughts would be more like target over there, bang, hit it, that kind of idea.

1:47.8

Right, right.

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