Now I am not saying in any way that relationships are not healing because they totally are,

but it's not the relationship's responsibility to heal our wounds. It's our responsibility to do that

you turn to look inside and heal because I think we heal internally and I think relationship is

very healing. So for me it's an and not an or, but you can't eliminate the self to part healing

that is required and attachment wounding can be healed. Then you choose a person because they're

interesting, not because you need them to fix or heal your little boy or your little girl who

didn't quite get the love that they needed in part. Welcome to Therapist Uncensored,

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backslash join. Welcome Frank Anderson to Therapist Uncensored. We are super excited to have you.

Our listeners are going to just love this. Really learning more about IFS and how it overlaps

and coordinates with many of the treatment modalities we've talked about here but attachment

in particular is going to be fun. Okay great sounds exciting. Attachment's a big deal

in the work that I do for sure as a kind of complex PTSD focused therapist so it's right up my

alley. Absolutely I'm so glad about it. So you are a psychiatrist that studied with Vanderkulk I

understand but then have been able to weave together psychopharmacology, trauma, neuroscience,

attachment and internal family systems. Is that right? That sounds quite like.

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