Hello, hello, it's Brooke DeVard and you're listening to the naked beauty podcast Welcome back to another episode. It's a beautiful day here in Los Angeles. The sun is shining. I have been inside all day working, but that is about to change as soon as I wrap this up. I'm going to go for a walk.

I always get outside and I do these nature walks, but I'm also excited because I got invited to a fashion show at the Hollywood Bowl tonight, which I have no idea how it's going to work, but I feel like when you're new to a city, you just say yes to everything and you stretch yourself to get new experiences.

And speaking of new experiences, I have really been loving hearing from beauty founders and content creators in the sustainability space. I feel like we can all do better, and I'm really inspired by these conversations.

And you're going to hear two interviews on today's episode. You're going to hear from Jean new Roberts, who is a sustainability creator and a black woman just really doing incredible work in the space. And I came across her content.

And as soon as I saw her content, I was like, I need to get her on naked beauty. So she was great. And she shared some really inspiring tips. And then you're going to hear from the founders ever as Jessica Stevenson and Jamie Jenkins.

And they had this very simple question, what do beauty products look like without single use plastic? And I had a chance to try their products. And I've been so impressed with it.

And I'm really becoming much more aware of waterless products and products that are made with concentrate. So I love hearing their background. And also the fact that they came from kind of a big beauty background is very interesting. Right. So it's like you start in the very corporate side of something. And then you kind of create a company that is counter to what those big corporations do.

And I think what lies at the heart of both of these conversations is that participating in a more mindful and environmentally conscious approach to skincare and beauty does not mean that you're making sacrifices.

If anything, sometimes it can be an up level. It can be something that enhances your beauty routine. I've been thinking a lot about how to create more mindful content around skincare and beauty. So I really hope you've enjoyed this series. Let's get into the conversations.

I am joined by Jim new Roberts, who is a creator that's focused on sustainability and mindful living. And I came across a profile actually in a folk article that my friend wrote about more environmentally friendly skincare and different solutions to live a more eco conscious life.

And I'm sort of on this journey with my listeners is learning and understanding. So I was like, I need to have you on the show. And also you're one of the very few black women that I've seen kind of in this sustainability space from a content creation standpoint. There aren't many of you. Correct. Yeah. No, there's, we all know each other, which tells you all you need to know. Yes, yes, yes. And you know, I had Leah Thomas on the show because I green girl Leah and she was saying the same thing that it's just it's still incredibly non diverse.

But I want to hear all about how you entered this space. What was the spark that got you really thinking about how to live more mindfully? Yeah, for me, I would say maybe 2018. I really got and she just like minimalism like this idea of living with less.

You know, for me, I wasn't someone that grew up with money and like, you know, I always held on to things because I was always scared of like being able to get those things in the future if I needed them.

And I kind of wanted this personal journey of like letting go of things that no longer served me and I no longer needed.

And I began purchasing things with more intention. And as I started purchasing items, I was like, well, who actually makes this? Where's this come from? You know, what happens once, you know, this product, I'm done with it and I throw in the trash like what actually happens?

So I kind of went down this, you know, deep dark, you know, I was like dark but deep journey, you know, learning more about, you know, our waste and where it goes and how we throw so much in the trash and it just ends up in landfill.

And then what that, you know, does for our planet and our health. And I just started learning more and more. And I was like, oh my goodness, I need to like make changes in my life.

Like these were small things that I felt as though that I could do in terms of just being more intentional about the things that I was purchasing.

And granted, you know, I was done a budget. I still to this day like try to budget as much as possible, but you know, a lot of times sustainable swaps are actually saving you money and it's also helping reduce waste as well.

I think a lot of times people think sustainable living is so expensive in their certain areas can be expensive. But I think overall, when you're reducing your waste and you're reducing consumption, you're reducing the amount of money you're spending which overall, you know, it's helping.

And then in terms of social media, I just like, Leah, I was like, there aren't that many specifically black women at the forefront of the sustainability movement.

And it's not that there weren't black women or people of color talking about these issues. I just felt like they weren't, you know, being shown.

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