Intelligent Design on trial. 15 years on from Kitzmiller-Dover – Mike Behe and Joshua Swamidass

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🗓️ 20 November 2020

⏱️ 87 minutes

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In 2005 a high profile trial saw the Dover School District taken to court for promoting Intelligent Design (ID) as an alternative theory to evolution in classrooms. 15 years on Mike Behe a prominent biochemist and ID advocate who took the stand as a defence witness, talks about what the case meant for the ID movement. Joshua Swamidass is a biologist and Christian who is strongly critical of ID. He engages with Behe on the Kitzmiller-Dover case and the ID proponent’s most recent book ‘Darwin Devolves’ which critiques evolutionary theory. For Michael Behe: https://michaelbehe.com/ For Joshua Swamidass: https://peacefulscience.org/ USA listeners check out our new USA website for exclusive resources and to support us: www.unbelievable.show Subscribe to our newsletter and receive the free Unbelievable? e-book ‘In Conversation With…’ https://www.premier.org.uk/Unbelievablenewsletter Support the show: https://resources.premier.org.uk/supportunbelievable For more faith debates visit http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable Facebook https://www.facebook.com/UnbelievableJB Twitter https://twitter.com/unbelievablejb Insta https://www.instagram.com/justin.brierley

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0:00.0	Well hello and welcome to another edition of Unbelievably with me Justin Briley,
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0:12.9	about today's discussion which takes us back to a famous trial 15 years ago centering on intelligent
0:20.4	design but sort of coincides really with the 15th anniversary of Unbelievably too because I think
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1:17.4	podcasting fully for 15 years that came a couple of years after we started with the radio show but
1:22.0	yeah it's been great to have been on air for 15 years in just a couple of weeks time. Thank you
1:27.8	also for those who are getting in touch about recent editions of the show will bring you some of
1:31.3	the feedback towards the end of the program and I'd love to tell you about some of the other stuff
1:35.4	going on shows to come from unbelievable some of what we've been writing about on our new pathos
1:40.4	blog as well but for now let's get into today's edition of the show.
1:44.2	You're listening to unbelievable with Justin Briarly.
2:01.3	Well on today's show we're talking about the Kits Miller Dover trial and the ID debate 15 years
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