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Hello and welcome to SpyCast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

I'm Peter Ernest, the Executive Director of the Museum. I served for some 36 years in the

Central Intelligence Agency largely as what is called an operations officer or a case officer.

Every month will be bringing you interesting talks with visitors,

with authors, with others who have something to do with the world of intelligence

and espionage. Intelligence and Estuary. Our guest today is Dr. Terry Gooditis.

And Dr. Geditis is a graduate, she has actually a master's degree and a doctoral degree from the University of Florida in behavioral science.

And interestingly, she works in the cyber world, and I'm going to use that term and it may be

inaccurate because I always think of the cyber world as just filled to the brim

with people who are computer people and you are a behavioral scientist, I think that's accurate.

For a spell, Terry served in the CIA in the operations side,

including in the Counterterrorism Center.

And then Haas has gone out and been in the commercial world as well.

She's currently with a company, a locally based company

called Sa Valence.

And I think we'd like to hear a little bit more about that.

But perhaps you could tell me first, Terry,

I think of, you know, why aren't you a computer person?

Therefore, give me a sense of what it is you're doing in the cyber world.

And we talk so much about cyber war now or the cyber world but either one what is it that your

discipline is my discipline is basically using the internet and the tools that

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