Intellectuals of the New Right | Interview: Laura Field

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

News, Politics

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🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Caving to popular demand for more talk about Straussians, Jonah Goldberg sits down with Laura Field to discuss the ideas driving the New Right. Follow Laura and Jonah as they fall down rabbit holes and explore digressions in the complicated story of 20th-century conservatism, the rise of MAGA, and the intellects behind Trumpism. Shownotes:—Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right—Remnant on Straussians—Project 2025—“The Flight 93 Election”—Michael Anton: “Harry V. Jaffa: An Appreciation”—1776 Commission Report—Yoram Hazony: The Virtue of Nationalism—Herbert Croly: The Promise Of American Life—Charles A. Reich: The Greening of America—The 1619 Project—Marco Rubio: “Industrial Policy, Right and Wrong”—Patrick Deneen: Regime Change: Toward a Postliberal Future—The American Mind—Richard Reinsch: “‘Furious Minds’ Review: The Road to MAGA”—Jonah on Invasion of the Body Snatchers and MAGA converts— Peter Schramm: “Born American, But in the Wrong Place” The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.
0:18.0	Can you digger?
0:23.5	Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant Podcasts,
0:30.1	brought you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
0:32.3	This is not quite a counter-programming episode because we are actually talking about politics, but it is also
0:38.5	counter programming in that we are going to go kind of deep in weeds, I think. We'll try to stay
0:44.0	out of just rank esotericism, but we had a lot of great feedback from our Who is Leo, who was Leo
0:50.1	Strauss episode? And we've also had demands for more punditry and rarely has the chocolate
0:55.8	of strowsianism gotten more into the peanut butter of punditry than the topic we have today.
1:01.1	Furious Minds, the making of the new MAGA Wright by Laura Field is a very well reviewed, very
1:06.9	interesting, very timely book that traces the history of people who are probably not necessarily
1:15.1	household names for everybody out there, but for a lot of listeners of this podcast, they are.
1:20.2	And it's basically the intellectual superstructure of MAGA.
1:24.3	She traces its origins and its development.
1:26.7	And I have many thoughts about it. Laura Field is here
1:29.8	with us today. She's a scholar in residence at AU. And she's also a non-resident fellow over at
1:35.4	the hated Brookings Institution. I say that because I've been an AI guy for 30 years. And
1:40.4	Brookings Delenda Est is our motto. I have many dear friends over there whose lives I will spare what I am czar.
1:47.4	She's the author of Fear is Mines and she's here with us today.
1:50.4	Laura, thank you very much for doing this.
1:52.1	Thank you so much for having me.
1:54.0	I didn't warn you about this in advance, but I'm sure you'll be receptive to it.
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