Integrating Faith & Therapy (Part 3) w/ Beth Stoll
Restore The Glory Podcast
Jake Khym
4.9 • 971 Ratings
🗓️ 6 August 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
This week, Jake and Bob conclude their series on integrating faith with psychology. They welcome Beth Stoll, a therapist from St. Louis, to talk about how an encounter with God's love at a Healing the Whole Person retreat transformed her practice. She not only shares how suffering creates a greater capacity for empathy but also why therapists who have experienced deep suffering themselves are able to more deeply connect with clients. They also discuss why one must first live a life of faith before integrating faith in their practice, define the difference between praying with and praying for someone, and reflect on the challenges of trusting God rather than our own abilities.
Key Points:
- Personal suffering can deepen a therapist's ability to empathize and connect with clients
- One must live a life of faith in their personal life before one can integrate it into their practice
- As a therapist, it is important to remember Jesus is the one who ultimately heals
- Learning to receive and allowing God to work in and through us can be difficult for both therapists and clients
- Integration is about encounter with the Lord through the therapist or Him directly
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:18 Beth's Journey Through Sorrow
05:58 The Impact of Suffering
11:42 How Prayer Shifted Beth's Practice
16:24 Jesus as the Primary Therapist
22:40 The Dynamics of Trust in Therapy
28:12 Praying for vs. Praying with Someone
34:57 Learning to Receive
40:42 Being the Presence of Christ
47:02 The Secret of Encounter and Integration
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Restore the Glory podcast. |
| 0:07.0 | My name is Jake Kim. |
| 0:12.0 | And I'm Bob Schutz. |
| 0:13.0 | We're two Catholic therapists sharing what we've learned personally and professionally to help you on the journey of restoration. |
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| 0:31.4 | like monthly reflections and special live stream teachings. |
| 0:35.4 | Go to patreon.com slash restore the glory and join the mission of |
| 0:40.9 | experiencing the restoration of our God-given glory. Hey Bob, good to see you. How are you doing |
| 0:48.1 | today? Good well, Jake. How are you? I'm good. We've had a little tech issue, so I'm hoping and |
| 0:53.5 | praying that the rest of the recording goes well. So, |
| 0:56.9 | Bob, we're in a series here for therapists as well as about therapists. And we're really just wanting |
| 1:04.0 | our listeners who are people who go to therapy or interested in healing and that kind of thing, |
| 1:10.1 | as well as actual |
| 1:10.9 | therapists to get a picture, some examples, some experience of people who are doing a really |
| 1:16.5 | good job of doing the integration of psychology, Christianity, psychology, prayer, etc. |
| 1:21.8 | So we have our next guest with us today. |
| 1:25.0 | Really excited to have Beth Stole with us. |
| 1:27.1 | Bob, tell us a bit about |
| 1:27.9 | Beth. Yeah, Beth is a therapist up in St. Louis. She's married to Dennis. They have six children. |
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