To listen to this episode and all previous deep dives, buddy dives, and dive master interviews

without commercial interruption, please subscribe and listen at deep dives with Monica Perez on your favorite podcasting

platform. Hey everybody this is Monica Perez here with Tommy Sammons and Courtney Turner.

We are doing a real swap cast.

Honest to goodness, equally hosting, bringing our ideas.

My show is Deep Dives with Monica Monica Perez you can find me at

Monica Perez show and let's just go around the horn

Tommy what's your show where can people find you?

Year zero at the Libertarian Institute

that's a Libertarian Institute. It's Libertarian Institute.

org forward slash year dash zero forward slash.

And Courtney?

And I am the Courtney Turner podcast

and I'm everywhere except you two.

Yes, right, that's a badge of honor.

Yeah, right.

So what we want to talk about today is I think we want to kind of exchange ideas and just talk through some of the craziness that's happening with, I mean, there's like a whole new alphabet soup of DEI and ESG and CRT.

There's stuff that like I never want to get dragged

into the culture wars.

I hate it.

And even now at this point, they've pushed me so far

that I'm just like, I don't care if what I say sounds on

...