All right, welcome in to another edition of the wolverine.com podcast here on the wolverine.com YouTube channel.

This is a live edition, as we tend to do after these games.

I'm Anthony Broom, as you can see here on the screen.

If you're watching on YouTube, if not, you'll hear it in the podcast afterwards, joined by a former Michigan Wolverine offensive lineman, Van Bergen. After a 21-17 win at Penn State, my God, it was ugly, but Ryan, they count all

the same with about maybe 10 minutes to go in this one. I think I was getting ready to do a very

different type of outline for the type of things we might be talking about.

But we'll still talk about those things.

But at the end of the day, I mean, a win is a win is a win is a win.

And to go there to get one at Penn State, that crowd is always on fire.

They're always going to give you a game.

You got to feel pretty good right now because they were on the ropes there with probably about what, maybe five minutes or so

left. And all the narratives have been what they are, is that, oh, Jim Harbaugh teams, they fold

in big games. Nobody makes big plays on either side of the ball. Listen, Penn State was able to take the lead late in that game because Sean Clifford made a play.

Jahan Dotson made a play.

Those are big-time players making big-time plays in a big-time game.

So you look to Michigan and you go, who's going to do that?

And Cade McNamara has the sack fumble, and that looked like it could have been disastrous.

But defense comes back, forces another Penn State field goal.

Give your offense a chance at the end.

And Eric All made the play that he did.

We've been waiting for someone to have some kind of knockout play in one of these games.

And Eric All came up big.

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