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INSTANT REACTION: Sauce Gardner Traded to the Colts & Rashid Shaheed to the Seahawks

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🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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PFF's Trevor Sikkema and Dalton Wasserman breakdown the blockbuster trades. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

What's going on everybody?

0:18.0

Well, we knew that we were going to log on at some point today.

0:22.1

Didn't know it was going to be for this explosive of a reason, though, Dalton.

0:25.1

Sauce Garner has just been traded from the New York Jets to the Indianapolis Colts for a price of two first-round picks.

0:32.3

A first-round pick this year, our first-round pick next year, and A.D. Mitchell as well. Dalton, you are, our resident

0:41.3

Jets, basically everything. Talk to me about this trade. My jaw is on the floor that this happened.

0:49.6

And just talk to me about where your thoughts are right now, because we'll dig into the numbers

0:53.8

and why it makes sense for both teams.

0:55.2

No, it is. It's as shocking as any trade I've seen, actually, because even if the Jets were going to have a fire sale, you figured, okay, Brees Hall, Quincy Williams, maybe a Jermaine Johnson, writer. Maybe the biggest name traded would have been Quinnett Williams, the defensive tackle.

1:09.0

I was going into this deadline thinking, okay, maybe that's a possibility that Jets could trade anybody,

1:13.2

except for the two guys that they just signed, Soss Gardner and Garrett Wilson, the wide receiver. Now that that's been broken, you just wonder about what the direction is of the Jets. Obviously, this season they're punting on it. It was always going to be the case. But I mean, how far into the future now are they looking, especially considering they just had signed both of these guys to four-year extensions, right? Gardner just signed a four-year $120 million deal. And now he's going to be an Indianapolis long term on a team that apparently believes that they are a real deal Super Bowl contender that they can compete with Kansas City and Buffalo and any other team that's emerging. Maybe New England right now too in the AFC. So no, this is as shocking and unexpected a trade as I've ever seen because I thought there were two guys on this team that were untouchable and that was Gardner and Garrett Wilson. Yeah, well, I think that that would have been the case because I don't know if any, I don't know if the Jets ever thought that they would have gotten two first round picks for Josh Carter. Like two first round picks is like quarterback territory. It's top of the past rusher market. Like we saw from Michael Parsons type of category, but like for a corner, I don't know if we've ever seen this type of value. I can't think of one off the top of my head. So especially with sauce gone on that contract, right? It's one thing to be, you know, signing, you know, the beginning of the contract or getting to negotiate that contract when you trade for somebody. But I can't think of off the top of my head, something like this where this player is under this massive contract that you did not negotiate, that you were trading two first round picks for at a position that

2:37.9

sauce, we'll get into the numbers here in a second, is kind of highly volatile. So I actually,

2:44.0

if the Jets are totally rebuilding a lot of this, and we knew that Aaron Glenn came in to change

2:49.1

the culture of everything, if for whatever reason they didn't think the sauce go on the culture, I'm not saying that, like, I know that for sure. But clearly, like, if they didn't think that he matched the culture of where they were going, to get two first round picks and A.D. Mitchell, which isn't just some throwaway. I mean, he was a throwaway with where he was on the Colts because he was behind a very deep, wide receiver room, but when you and I were talking right before we went live,

3:10.0

A.D. Mitchell... he was a throwaway with where he was on the Colts because he was behind a very deep wide receiver room. But when you and I were talking right before we went live,

3:14.5

A.D. Mitchell could easily be wide receiver two on this team.

3:16.7

And so now you get two first round picks and potentially your wide receiver two if he works out.

3:19.4

For the Jets, if you were entertaining this at all whatsoever,

3:24.1

which clearly they were, the price is

3:27.2

actually pretty damn good and honestly one that I think would have been higher than anything

3:31.9

that would have been possible to get for a cornerback. It reminded me, and I don't think we've

3:36.1

seen a bigger cornerback trade since. I'm almost certain we haven't, but it reminded me of when

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