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Breaking Down Patriarchy

Inside Women's Prisons - with Emily Warneke

Breaking Down Patriarchy

Amy McPhie Allebest

Society & Culture, Education, History

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Amy is joined by Emily Warneke of the Utah Prison Education Project to discuss how and why women end up behind bars, what life is like for incarcerated women, and what we can all be doing to help put an end to an exploitative and dehumanizing prison system.

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Emily Warneke is a third-year PhD student in Educational Leadership and Policy at the University of Utah, where her research centers on access and equity in post-secondary education in prison. For her dissertation, she intends to explore the experiences of formerly incarcerated mothers who pursued higher education while incarcerated, and how this experience informs the ways that they navigate motherhood and education post-release. Emily currently works as a graduate research assistant with the research collaborative on higher education in prison. She's currently involved in developing a student center inside a women's designated prison that is led by currently incarcerated students through the Utah Prison Education Project. Drawing from feminist and intersectional frameworks, her work seeks to challenge dominant narratives about incarceration, motherhood, and educational justice. 

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0:00.0

Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee All the Best. Today I'd like to begin by sharing a quote from American feminist, political activist, philosopher, academic, and author Angela Davis. She said, quote, prisons do not disappear social problems. They disappear human beings. Homelessness, unemployment, drug addiction,

0:23.0

mental illness, and illiteracy are only a few of the problems that disappear from public view

0:28.3

when the human beings contending with them are relegated to cages." I have been wanting to learn

0:36.0

more about the prison system for years.

0:39.3

The punitive system of locking people up when they make mistakes seems very connected to patriarchy to me.

0:45.8

And I'm specifically interested in women's prisons and how incarceration affects women's lives.

0:51.3

So you can imagine, I was thrilled to meet a classmate in my PhD program who has

0:56.2

expertise in this very area, and she agreed to join me today. Her name's Emily Warnocky,

1:01.7

and I'm so excited to have you here, Emily. Emily Warnocky is a third-year PhD student in

1:07.2

educational leadership and policy at the University of Utah, where her research centers on

1:12.0

access and equity in post-secondary education in prison. She intends to explore the experiences of

1:18.2

formerly incarcerated mothers who pursued higher education while incarcerated, and how this

1:23.6

experience informs the ways that they navigate motherhood and education post-release for her

1:28.9

dissertation. Emily currently works as a graduate research assistant with the research collaborative

1:33.9

on higher education in prison. She's currently involved in developing a student center inside a

1:39.4

women's designated prison that is led by currently incarcerated students through the Utah

1:43.9

Prison Education Project.

1:45.9

Drawing from feminist and intersectional frameworks, her work seeks to challenge dominant narratives

1:51.1

about incarceration, motherhood, and educational justice. I also want to say that Emily and I had

1:58.1

planned to record in person today, but due to a child care shuffle,

2:03.3

Emily has her adorable toddler, Ivy, with her today. So if you hear cute noises, just know that

2:09.0

that's Ivy. And we decided to include her as a feminist choice to normalize the balance of

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