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The Daily

Inside Ukraine’s Invasion of Russia

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Warning: this episode contains descriptions of war. When Ukrainian troops crossed over into Russia two weeks ago, it appeared at first to be a largely symbolic gesture. But in the time since, it has emerged as a potentially pivotal moment in the war. Andrew Kramer, the Kyiv bureau chief for The Times, explains what’s behind the audacious Ukrainian operation, and Anton Troianovski, the Moscow bureau chief, explains how Russia’s response could reshape the conflict. Guest: Andrew E. Kramer, the Kyiv bureau chief for The New York Times. Anton Troianovski, the Moscow bureau chief for The New York Times.

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0:00.0

My name is Andrew Kramer. I'm a reporter for the New York Times. I'm standing on the highway where

0:09.2

Ukrainian troops are moving tanks and armored vehicles into Russia.

0:16.1

Every few minutes, we have tanks, trucks with soldiers,

0:21.5

rumbling past and in the direction of Russia.

0:26.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bobaro.

0:28.9

This is the Daily.

0:30.7

Ukraine sliced through the border area, pushed through minefields and thinly manned

0:35.6

defences and has been pressing deeper into Russia.

0:41.3

When Ukraine's military crossed over into Russia two weeks ago. It appeared at first to be a largely symbolic

0:49.4

gesture. But in the time since, it's emerged as a defining moment in the two-year-old war.

0:57.0

This is the first major military incursion into Russia since World War II.

1:03.2

Today, Andrew Kramer on what's behind the audacious Ukrainian

1:08.6

operation and Anton Troyanovsky

1:12.1

on how Russia's response could reshape the conflict.

1:17.0

It's Wednesday, August 21st.

1:24.0

Andrew, I wonder if you can take us back to the moment when you discovered that this pretty unimaginable thing

1:36.4

had occurred, Ukrainian troops entering

1:40.2

Russian territory and turning the basic equation of this war upside down.

1:45.0

Well the entire operation was shrouded in secrecy.

1:49.0

So the first reports were actually from Russian social media posts and everything was a little bit vague.

1:56.0

We were seeing reports of fighting along the border, but nothing indicating the scale of what was

2:02.0

to come.

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