Most people have a bookshelf and nice books. I have dead fucking animals.

Chris Lasavita is sitting in a room of taxidermied animals, and they might as well be the peltz of his political opponents.

Every one of these animals, I ate.

The former co-campaign manager for Donald Trump is probably one of the only people who isn't

surprised by the very loud start to his second presidency.

And he's also got a pretty good idea of where things are headed next.

Oh, and did I mention that Lasavita is a tough talker?

When you're dealing with me, you've seen me coming a mile away. I make a lot of noise.

After the election, Lasavita went back to the private sector instead of following his old

pal, Susie Wiles, into the Oval Office, which means he's now free to tell some secrets

about how things really work inside Trump's inner circle

and what the true meaning of Trump's most controversial actions are.

I caught up with Las Vita on Thursday night over video conference,

where he told me some truths about Project 2025 and Donald Trump,

what actual power Elon Musk has,

some spicy tidbits about Trump's plans to redevelop Gaza and who he thinks will

be the heir to the MAGA you know, couple of years.

What are you seeing from the campaign trail, the strategy, the conversations that you and Susie and President Trump had

while you were on the road, now translating to the White House.

Is it lining up with what you thought it was going to look like in these first weeks?

Yeah, actually, I don't think that the folks in Washington or the press corps for that matter were ready for it,

although they should have been.

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