Inside Trump's Pardon Economy
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🗓️ 22 May 2026
⏱️ 55 minutes
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| 1:03.9 | Of the many ways President Trump has monetized his office and tried to enrich himself, |
| 1:08.8 | including settling a lawsuit with his own IRS this week. |
| 1:12.8 | One way that's gotten less attention is his brazen use of his pardon power. |
| 1:17.5 | Trump has issued some 1,700 pardon since the start of his second term, including more than 1,500 |
| 1:23.4 | to January 6th rioters who stormed the Capitol and assaulted police officers. |
| 1:29.0 | An investigation by the New Yorker's Ruth Marcus also finds that, quote, |
| 1:32.5 | in one instance after another, this president has directed clemency toward political allies, |
| 1:38.1 | celebrities, and fraudsters. |
| 1:40.9 | Joining me now is Ruth Marcus, contributing writer at The New Yorker, whose piece on this is called |
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