Inside Trump’s Immigration Crackdown

The Daily

The New York Times

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🗓️ 14 September 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

This episode contains strong language. After Donald Trump was elected president, two filmmakers were granted rare access to the operations of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Since Mr. Trump had campaigned on a hard-line immigration agenda, the leaders of the usually secretive agency jumped at a chance to have their story told from the inside. Today, we speak to the filmmakers about what they saw during nearly three years at ICE and how the Trump administration reacted to a cut of the film. Guests: Christina Clusiau and Shaul Schwarz, the filmmakers behind the six-hour documentary series “Immigration Nation.” For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily Background reading: The Trump administration has threatened the two filmmakers with legal action and fought to delay the release of “Immigration Nation” until after the election.

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0:00.0	From The New York Times, I'm Michael Babaro. This is The Daily.
0:09.5	Today, at the start of the Trump presidency, leaders within ICE, immigration and customs enforcement,
0:16.9	jumped at the chance to give two filmmakers, Christina Clazzo and Charles Schwartz,
0:22.8	inside access to document the agency's new hard-line agenda. Four years later, and with the election
0:32.4	approaching, the agency tried to block the release of their film.
0:43.6	It's Monday, September 14th.
0:46.2	Hi, Michael.
0:52.2	Hi, Michael.
0:52.7	We're so grateful for your time. Thank you.
0:55.1	Sure.
0:57.9	Okay, so we're going to start.
0:58.8	Awesome.
1:00.8	Christina and Charles, we know that ICE is a notoriously secretive organization.
1:06.2	It is very rare for them to allow journalists or filmmakers access to their operations.
1:12.1	But you were able to follow them for nearly three years with a tremendous level of access.
1:17.9	So how did you go about getting that access? What's the story?
1:22.1	Yeah, I originally started working with ICE almost a decade ago, doing stories about the drug war.
1:29.6	As part of that, I met ICE spokesman who was at the time a local Arizona spokesman.
1:35.2	As the years kind of progressed, he had moved up the ranks.
1:38.4	And actually during the Obama time, they were not so interested in somebody really taking a deep dive into the agency.
1:45.2	And so I want to recognize the ICE and Border Patrol officers in this room today,
1:51.2	and to honor their service, and not just because they unanimously endorsed me for president.
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