Hi, Bill Crystal here, editor at large of the bulwark. Very glad to be joined today by Aaron Reiklin-Melnick,

senior fellow at the American Immigration Council, a lawyer, advocate, analyst of all matters

have it to do with immigration policy and a few others as well. I see you've been opining on the law of war,

but we can quite correctly and intelligently and sentently, but anyway, we could leave that issue aside for, I guess for a minute, or come back to it if you want. But anyway, Aaron is a great expert on immigration. We've done this a couple of times before, and a real resource for anybody who wants to understand what's going on. You should follow him on Blue Sky and X or X, whichever you prefer. So, Aaron,

thanks for, thanks for joining me. Thanks for having me again. So I thought today we would

try to update people on what is going on. We've seen headlines, obviously. There's the kind

of internal enforcement side of things, the ICE Border Patrol stuff, a lot of visibility. Maybe

we'll start with that. And then I want to talk

a little more than people normally do about what the administration is also doing and revoking

TPS, temporary protected status and other things in the, let's call it the legal side as opposed

to internal enforcement, the kicking people out or restricting people from coming in side of

immigration.

And then maybe we can talk more broadly about the bigger picture, almost, of where they're going with this, with their immigration or anti-immigration policy.

So tell me, I mean, we've seen the videos from Chicago at all.

What's going on? Is it more aggressive than you expected? Is it

subsiding or is it going to continue, et cetera? Yeah, the long story short is that across pretty much

every sector, Trump's crackdown on immigration is accelerating. In the ICE enforcement,

DHS enforcement in the interior side of things.

While the Operation Midway Blitz has formally concluded and there are debates over whether

what was known as Operation Charlotte's Web in Charlotte, North Carolina has concluded,

the pace of immigration enforcement is significantly up and continues to be up.

And a lot of this is due in part to the fact that the Trump administration is getting the funds

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