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The Town with Matthew Belloni

Inside TMZ’s Cozy Relationship With Hollywood

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.3847 Ratings

🗓️ 29 March 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by Van Lathan to discuss the complicated and nuanced relationship between TMZ and Hollywood. As a former TMZ employee, Van walks us through how the sausage is made at TMZ and outlines its aggressive reporting style, how it pays its sources, and how, despite its often negative perception, the mainstream media has become more like TMZ, not the other way around. For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ click here. Email us your thoughts! [email protected] Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Van Lathan Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

There are a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL draft this year.

0:04.0

My name is Ben Solac and I host the Ringer NFL Draft Show with Danny Kelly, Danny Hypatts, and Craig Horleck.

0:08.8

We cover trades, free agency, and the draft, which is, yeah, obviously.

0:12.2

We'll tell you about everything, which includes which quarterbacks are good,

0:14.5

which quarterbacks are bad, and which quarterbacks are just Kirk Cousins.

0:17.2

That is the Ringer NFL draft show. Search the bringer NFL draft show on Spotify.

0:21.6

It is Friday, March 29th. I've been on vacation most of this week. When I got back last night, I wanted to catch up on the whole ditty situation.

0:32.6

Of course, I went to TMZ, as one does, where I was not surprised at all to see coverage of every possible

0:38.9

angle of the investigation into sex trafficking claims. It's kind of the perfect story for TMZ,

0:44.1

a combo of celebrity, scandal, money, some complex legal issues. And it comes at a good time for them,

0:50.3

because I've been hearing in recent years about the waning influence of the outlet in the social

0:54.5

media age. Harvey Levin, its very famous founder, is now in his 70s and still presiding over the

1:00.1

website, multiple TV shows. I've always been a curious observer of TMZ and Harvey. Like most people,

1:06.8

I'm often baffled and a little grossed out by some of its coverage, but as someone who works in news and has competed with TMZ for stories, I've always admired

1:14.3

its emphasis on original reporting, cutting through the spin, especially when it comes to Hollywood.

1:19.7

Going all the way back to the Mel Gibson anti-Semitic rant to Chris Brown assaulting Rihanna,

1:25.1

first reporting the death of Michael Jackson in 2009.

1:28.2

All huge stories, even if TMZ is known to pay their sources.

1:33.4

Alec Baldwin once called Harvey a, quote, festering boil on the anus of American media.

1:39.2

Pretty good quote.

1:39.9

But in the 20 years since its launch, the mainstream media has kind of become a lot more like

1:45.6

that festering boil, not the other way around.

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