Hello, everyone, and welcome to this conversation. I'm Azimazar, the founder of Exponential View.

Please do introduce yourselves and tell us where you're from in the chat. I'm in London. I'm delighted

to be with a legend of substack, Jordan Schneider. Jordan, where are you? I am in New York City,

and I'm so glad to be here. We have just partnered up in a new publishing project as well, which I've been finding pretty exciting, right, to have all of these new, new business partners.

Why didn't you say something about it for a minute?

Sure.

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and your team smarter about what's coming down the pipe with artificial intelligence.

It's a great initiative.

I'm super happy it started. We will, of course, talk about AI today, but you are best known for China talk, and there is so much going on between the US and China,

and I just want to make sense of it. And hopefully you'll be able to help us do that.

It seemed to me that we're watching the US and China do more than traditional trade wars.

And we've moved from a phase where the US was trying to contain China, perhaps into something

more, a decoupling. And what I want to argue, that that decoupling is actually more interesting and perhaps more

dangerous than things we've seen in the past.

It's not so much separation, but the emergence of these two parallel tech universes,

but they remain deeply entangled.

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