This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. It's part by Digital Media. That is a real company. They have a funny name, but they're a real company. I am here with the real Mike Allen from Axios. Greetings, Mike. Oh, Peter, what a treat. And do your listeners know that we're in a stand-up comedy club? Is that kosher? We talk about it sometimes. We talk about the way it smells. Sometimes it's kind of a beer smell. I think it's something better not talked about.

Some people love it.

I have become We talk about it sometimes. We talk about the way it smells sometimes. It's kind of a beer smell.

I think it's something better not talked about. Some people love it. I have become fond of it over a year. By the way, we've been doing this for more than a year. We're now at a million streams. So thank you guys. And thanks again for Mike for joining us. We're going to two this week. Yeah, yeah, we're going to bump it. Thanks for making time because you are one of the busiest men in journalism because you crank out every morning since January 10th. When did you start this year? January 10th, and I did. So in my morning newsletter through Axios, you should be subscribing if you aren't already, you probably are. You don't stop. You have not stopped. It comes up Saturday and Sunday. Oh, yes. So seven days a week, 365. And the reason for that is, Peter, when I started my morning newsletter at my previous employer, first was five days a week.

I'll fill that in for you. But what we discovered was that people actually want it more on the weekends because you're

not plugged in all the time. And we discovered that people love it on holidays because you're maybe

traveling, like the blue bag maybe isn't in the driveway. So Axis AM, Mike's top 10, so it's just 10

items is 365 days a year. I did Playbook, my previous

one, something like 3,400 days in a row. So I only have 3,352 days to go to break

my street. Well, I have many questions for you, but one of them is how do you keep the pace?

Because I get that people want to read things on the weekend.

I want to read things on the weekend.

Sometimes I actually want to know about them.

Sometimes I'm just trying to avoid doing other things I might have to do on the weekend. But you're cranking this stuff out of high volume. You're producing it yourself overnight in the morning. You send it out. I think on weekends you give yourself a little break and it comes out maybe at 8.30, I said it's 7.30.

You can tell how much fun I had the night before by how late Axis a.m. But you are, you are a middle-aged man. I think you're probably in your 50s at this point. It's a brutal pace. I mean, Tom Brady is keeping it up. And you are not getting tackled, so there's that. Exactly. No, it's so much fun, like two things.

One is the fact that people like you and your listeners read it is so awesome and makes it fun to do. There's never in the 3,500 or whatever days it is, there's never been a single day that I didn't wake up and wasn't excited to do it. I don't

have an alarm clock. I just wake up. And the times we have, we're just chatting here with

Beth before we started, like the fact that you have like a year of news in a day. Yeah. It just makes it so fun.

And so I'm,

I wake up and can't wait.

So I think most people who are listening to this, reading your newsletter, they get what you do, but we'll talk about all of that. It's part of a good breakfast. But I do want to talk about just, just today's newsletter and this is at the risk, I know this will be outdated because it'll be outdated when it comes out tomorrow.

And this podcast will be a few days after we talk.

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