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Welcome to the Athletic FC podcast with me, Ayo Akim Muler.

Coming up, we'll take you inside the 2025 transfer market to explain the deals that are being worked on across both the winter and the summer windows.

This includes the players that could arrive and the ones who could be on their way out across the Premier League and beyond.

And with me today, we've got the main man, none other than the athletics football correspondent

David Ornstein in the studio.

Look, he's even on his phone already. I can't even stop him. I mean, January is not far off, brother. And this is the one. This is, this is the money time for you. How do you manage this? How does this work for you? Do you have a burner phone? Do you have your regular phone? You have family life. You have work life. How do you balance it all? I used to have two phones when I

worked to the BBC, because often you're on television, so you might need this for your comms,

and then you need another phone to look out for the info and the script. But everyone says,

never trust the man with two phones. So now I've got something slightly different where within

the one phone, there's a second

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