I'd basically have a 100% success rate. Like, no one gets worse. They all get better. Talking about your boat, I had a 70, I think he was 72 years old when I started working with him. And he thought, you know, he loved golf, but he thought this is it. I'm 16 handicapped. I've lost it. I'm never going to get good again. Within eight months, he was back down to a seven.

And it wasn't from any magic stuff. It was providing the forces on the ball that the golf

ball likes. So today I'm talking to Bradley Hughes about Ben Hogan, Sam's Need, and teaching a different way of teaching the

golf swing. Bradley, thank you for taking the time to do this. I'm glad you're here. Yep, you're

welcome. Looking forward to it. So I just read an article that you wrote. I know you wrote a book

about Hogan, but talking about people trying to swing like Hogan.

Can you just talk a little bit about, you know, Hogan swing and why it is so incredibly

difficult for, I think you said, like, nobody is really actually capable of doing it,

at least, you know, an amateur.

But talk a little bit about that and, you know, tell us, you know, your impressions of people

trying to use Hogan Swing.

Well, I think it's possible, but you've got to understand that when people diagnose Hogan's

swing, there's some footage, you know, probably not great footage of his swing, you know,

in action.

There's a little bit around. Certainly not high definition, certainly not slowed down enough that you can really

pinpoint a lot of things. So most Hogan swing thoughts are based off still photographs, pictures

of Hogan. Now, you've got to remember that a picture is just a spot in the swing.

There's something that came before it and there's something that's going to come after.

So when you see a picture, a lot of people try and pose that picture. They try and get in that

position, whereas that position is something, like I said,

that's already happened and something that is going to happen. So you can kind of put it down to

still photographs or a moment in time, and they're not just a moment. They're not just what you

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