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🗓️ 15 July 2020
⏱️ 27 minutes
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At the height of the Cold War, East Germany operated an elite secret academy designed to train secret police agents in tradecraft and tactics for psychological manipulation. Now, a trove of previously classified recordings that reveal the inner workings of that Stasi training school have been published.
Guests:
Oliver Moody, Berlin Correspondent for the Times.
Roger Boyes, Diplomatic Editor and columnist at The Times.
Host: Manveen Rana.
With thanks to Südwest Rundfunk (SWR), the German public broadcaster that released the recordings, and the Bundesbeauftragte für die Stasi-Unterlagen (BStU) – Federal Commissioner for the Stasi Files, in English - for the audio.
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0:00.0 | At the height of the Cold War, East Germany operated a secret academy designed to train agents in elite psychological manipulation tactics. |
0:13.0 | There was too much to lose, there was too many snitches everywhere at the workplace in school. |
0:18.0 | Husbands vying on wives, you know, there were several such cases. |
0:21.0 | It was a pretty evil set-up. Now, for the first time, we have |
0:26.4 | access to a trove of secret recordings that reveal the inner workings of the Starzy Training Academy and our correspondent in Berlin, Oliver Moody, has been listening to hours of them. |
0:41.5 | It was kind of grotesquely fascinating. |
0:46.0 | You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday Times. |
0:51.0 | I'm Manveen Rana. Today, inside the Starzy Spy School. |
0:57.0 | Okay, all right. I'm going to press play on it now if that's okay. |
1:07.0 | But a new little one, it's not a little bit, I'm going to |
1:10.0 | with the city not only, I'm going to be able. I think that we're going to eat. The coffee |
1:14.0 | I've already got a garment so either. And I had the no-unme |
1:17.3 | clapped. I don't want you to the shrima muste. |
1:20.0 | There was so much, that's all the same thing. What are we listening to? |
1:25.0 | This is a tape recorded on April the 18th, |
1:30.0 | 1984. |
1:32.0 | We don't know for certain where it was recorded, but we're probably |
1:37.4 | in a secret police interrogation cell in an East German town called Halberstadt, which is about a dozen of a tight spot. |
1:58.0 | She's explaining how the Stasi officers tried to force her to sign a document officially disowning her own mother. |
2:07.0 | She's saying, I wanted to read it all the way through so I knew what I was signing. |
2:16.4 | And I told them, I can't put my signature on that. |
2:19.2 | It doesn't correspond to the truth. |
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