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Inside the Stasi spy school

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Politics, Unknown, Daily News, News

41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

At the height of the Cold War, East Germany operated an elite secret academy designed to train secret police agents in tradecraft and tactics for psychological manipulation. Now, a trove of previously classified recordings that reveal the inner workings of that Stasi training school have been published. 


Guests:

Oliver Moody, Berlin Correspondent for the Times.

Roger Boyes, Diplomatic Editor and columnist at The Times.


Host: Manveen Rana.


With thanks to Südwest Rundfunk (SWR), the German public broadcaster that released the recordings, and the Bundesbeauftragte für die Stasi-Unterlagen (BStU) – Federal Commissioner for the Stasi Files, in English - for the audio.



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0:00.0

At the height of the Cold War, East Germany operated a secret academy designed to train agents in elite psychological manipulation tactics.

0:13.0

There was too much to lose, there was too many snitches everywhere at the workplace in school.

0:18.0

Husbands vying on wives, you know, there were several such cases.

0:21.0

It was a pretty evil set-up. Now, for the first time, we have

0:26.4

access to a trove of secret recordings that reveal the inner workings of the Starzy Training Academy and our correspondent in Berlin, Oliver Moody, has been listening to hours of them.

0:41.5

It was kind of grotesquely fascinating.

0:46.0

You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday Times.

0:51.0

I'm Manveen Rana. Today, inside the Starzy Spy School.

0:57.0

Okay, all right. I'm going to press play on it now if that's okay.

1:07.0

But a new little one, it's not a little bit, I'm going to

1:10.0

with the city not only, I'm going to be able. I think that we're going to eat. The coffee

1:14.0

I've already got a garment so either. And I had the no-unme

1:17.3

clapped. I don't want you to the shrima muste.

1:20.0

There was so much, that's all the same thing. What are we listening to?

1:25.0

This is a tape recorded on April the 18th,

1:30.0

1984.

1:32.0

We don't know for certain where it was recorded, but we're probably

1:37.4

in a secret police interrogation cell in an East German town called Halberstadt, which is about a dozen of a tight spot.

1:58.0

She's explaining how the Stasi officers tried to force her to sign a document officially disowning her own mother.

2:07.0

She's saying, I wanted to read it all the way through so I knew what I was signing.

2:16.4

And I told them, I can't put my signature on that.

2:19.2

It doesn't correspond to the truth.

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