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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Inside The Secret U.S.–Iran Deal That Created the Next Global Nuclear Threat

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

On this week's episode, Andy sits down with Mark Dubowitz, CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and a leading expert on Iran sanctions and U.S. foreign policy. Dubowitz has advised multiple U.S. administrations and lawmakers on strategies to counter Iran’s nuclear ambitions and regional activities. The conversation covers the evolution of U.S.-Iran relations, the effectiveness and limitations of sanctions, and the impact of domestic political divisions on international strategy. Dubowitz also examines the importance of historical context and discusses the potential role of supporting internal dissent within Iran as part of a broader policy approach. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors:  Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ AmmoSquared Visit https://ammosquared.com/ today for a special offer and keep yourself fully stocked. With over 100,000 members and thousands of 5-star ratings, Your readiness is their mission. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Claire worked in the marketing department for an up-and-coming artisan bakery. Unfortunately, the artisan

0:07.5

bakery in question was so up-and-coming. Nobody actually knew it existed. But then she had the

0:14.3

really good idea to use Canva to create a business plan. It looked good, really, really good. Their investors thought so too.

0:23.7

And now their hotcakes are selling like, well, exactly. Thanks, Canber. When you're enriching

0:32.6

a 3.67% low enriched uranium, that's 70% of the capabilities you need to get to weapons grade uranium.

0:39.8

When you're 20%, you're 90% of what you need to get in weapons grade. When you're at 60%, you're 99%

0:47.2

of what you need to get to weapons grade. And weapons grade is essentially 90% in rich uranium.

0:52.9

So as the CIA director, John Ratcliffe, said just the other day, you know, Iran was on the 99-yard line.

1:01.0

And if you imagine a football team on the 99-yard line, it's a pretty safe assumption that they're there to score a goal.

1:07.0

They're not there to get to the 99-yard line and then march backwards into their end zone.

1:19.1

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.

1:21.2

Hope you're ready for another episode of Change Agents, an Ironclad original presented by Firecracker Farm.

1:26.4

Now, let's dive in.

1:27.5

Yeah. an Ironclad original presented by Firecracker Farm. Now, let's dive in.

1:38.5

Where do we begin?

1:46.6

You know, you're an expert on your efforts in the Iranian-Kowratera regime testified before Congress and foreign legislator and expert on sanctions. Let's start with this. What is the definition of a sanction? Because if I'm

1:54.4

like most people, I have heard that word a ton, but would probably struggle to accurately define it.

1:59.9

Yeah. And so thanks so much for having me on.

2:02.5

It's also worth noting that Iran has sanctioned me in 2000.

2:06.9

Personally.

2:07.7

Personally and as the organization that I lead, FD.

2:11.9

That's fantastic.

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