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Guaranteed Human. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Stix, DJ Buck, with you. And bringing on our good buddy to join us today, Brock. You or Brock, what is going on, man? This is kind of fun, DJ. You know, for two years. It's a role reversal. You come on my show every Wednesday or Tuesday. We kind of move it around up in Seattle. You join. If I remember. If I remember. No, no. There've only been a couple of those, a couple of those. So it's kind of fun to be on the other end of this. So receiving end. So look forward to it. Good to see you, Buck. Good to see you, Brock. Long time. Long time. Yeah, he's spoiled, man.

Like, you know, I feel I'm with Buck.

He's a Dodger fan, so he just wins every year. Now, Brock's up in the sports capital to the world right now. They got baseball. They got football. They're, you know, kind of crushing it up there. But, Brock, one reason I wanted to have you on is because, to me, I think the Seahawks are a fascinating study.

We always talk about team building and, to me, I think the Seahawks are a fascinating study.

We always talk about team building and, you know, scouting and trying to make this whole matrix come together and work.

And it seems like they have long had the right general manager.

We've known John for a long time.

Bucky's been around him more than I have.

But there's, you know, tremendous respect for him around the league.

I want to know more about Coach McDonald and how this thing, how this marriage has worked with those two guys and how he's been able to be a perfect fit there.

Yeah, I think what John said just on and off the record over the years in in that process of hiring Mike was and it's a

business term you hear and it's popular and everybody loves to use that in the terms of disruptor.

He's a disruptor and there were a lot of folks and a lot of his buddies, McVeigh and Shanahan and

the folks in the NFC and less need and the rest of them were like, come, John, you know, hire the next, hire Liam, you know, hire the next

Kevin O'Connell, hire the next offensive guy, hire somebody from our tree, you know,

have them try to tangle with us. And I just think John knew that in this division to try to

handle in a division that, by the way, has just

been unbelievable this season, you just knew that in order to tackle Shanahan and McVeigh,

that he was going to have to disrupt the operation and disrupt their operation and do it

with somebody that I think in many ways from a process, the more time I spend with Mike,

I've always been around offensive guys.

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