Hello and welcome. Hello and welcome back to Inside the Room, the Libya conflict.

We've still got former MI6 chief, SIS chief, as you probably describe himself.

Sir John Saw is here with us in Hoxton in our studio as we come to the conclusion of the Libya conflict and we look at the aftermath.

Thank you for being with us, John.

Pleasure. Nice to be here.

Now, in the last episode, we got to the point where, you know, the protests in Libya, the Civil War in Libya, had prompted the military intervention.

That had taken a long period of time, eight months.

But Tripoli has fallen, David Cameron, Nicholas Sarkozy. They've actually visited Tripoli and indeed Benghazi.

And Gaddafi is still alive. We were talking about him right at the end of the last episode, even though Tripoli fell a couple of months earlier.

We're in October 2011. But then the

news comes through that that has changed and he is probably dead. Let me remind you of what

you were listening to if you were paying attention to the news at the time.

Jubilation in Libya, as it's reported on Libyanyan television that Colonel Gaddafi has been killed.

Confirmed in the Jazeera and I, there was tears in my eyes. I mean, they just came. I mean, I couldn't even, it was joy.

Tears of joy.

It marks the end of a long and painful chapter for the people of Libya, who now have the opportunity to

determine their own destiny in a new and democratic Libya. For four decades, the Gaddafi regime

ruled the Libyan people with an iron fist. Today, we can definitively say that the Gaddafi regime

has come to an end.

We have an even greater chance after this news of building themselves a strong and democratic

future. I'm proud of the role that Britain has played in helping them to bring that about.

And I pay tribute to the bravery of the Libyans who've helped to liberate their country.

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