Inside The Primate Mind: What Animal Navigation Reveals About Human Cognition

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Richard Jacobs

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🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Can we learn more about humans by studying animal behavior? For Dr. Francine Dolins, this question lies at the heart of her life's work. An Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan-Dearborn, Dr. Dolins explores the rich intersections between animal cognition, ecology, and the evolutionary foundations of behavior.

With a Ph.D. in Cognitive Psychology and Behavioral Primatology from the University of Stirling and a BSc in Behavioral Ecology from the University of Sussex, her research delves into how non-human primates and humans navigate their worlds. From lemurs in Madagascar to tamarins in Costa Rica and Peru, Dr. Dolins studies spatial cognition, decision-making, and navigation in both natural habitats and experimental settings.

In this episode, we discuss:

Dr. Dolins's pioneering work on virtual reality research with apes.
How primates use mental maps and landmarks to make navigational decisions.
What current research can reveal about the evolution of intelligence, cooperation, and social cognition.

Dr. Dolins also collaborates with scientists worldwide, combining field primatology, technology, and comparative psychology to advance both animal welfare and conservation education. Eager to learn more about this fascinating subject? Click play now to deep dive into how studying our closest relatives helps us understand ourselves…

You can learn more about Dr. Dolins and her work here!

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🛍️ Recommended Books from This Episode:

📖 Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? by Frans de Waal – A compelling exploration into the cognitive lives of animals, challenging the long-held assumption that human intelligence is unique.
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📘 The Primate Mind: Built to Connect with Other Minds – This collaborative volume delves into how primates perceive, imitate, cooperate and empathize—revealing fascinating parallels between human and nonhuman minds.
👉 Check it out

📙 Parrot's Lament: And Other True Tales of Animal Intrigue, Intelligence and Ingenuity by Eugene Linden – Over 100 true stories of animal behavior that combine humor, awe and insight into how animals think, feel and interact.
👉 Explore it here

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0:37.4	Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius podcast.
0:41.4	My guest today is Professor Francine Dolan.
0:44.2	She's an associate professor of psychology at University of Michigan Dearborn in the
0:48.4	Department of Behavioral Sciences, such as she teaches courses on animal behavior, animal
0:53.0	intelligence, experimental psychology, and supervise
0:55.8	the student research. So I think this will be a really interesting call. So welcome, Francine.
1:00.0	Thanks for coming. Thanks very much. Yeah. Tell me about your interest in, you know, all things animal.
1:04.9	What, you know, what kind of research are you doing at this moment? What kind of animals?
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