Has the public's trust in political language reached an all-time low?

Mark Thompson, CEO of The New York Times, has choice words about that in his new book,

Enough Said.

What's gone wrong with political language?

The sense of identity and community, a language which is about us, either speaker you,

that you, the audience, and them, our enemies, our rivals, the people who threaten us, felt

very alive in the room.

What led an essentially nice young man from a quote-unquote good family to become Stalin's

last American spy?

Author Kati Martin explores this in her new book, True Believer.

He wanted to do good, but I think if there's a takeaway from True Believer, it is that

it isn't enough just to want to do good.

You also have to have judgment.

Also, news from the publishing world, and we'll talk about what we and other people are

reading.

And inside the New York Times Booker few, I'm Pamela Paul.

The way politicians speak and the way the media, both reports and influences political

language, has changed hugely over the last few decades.

My next guest argues that the public is more distrustful of public discourse than ever

before.

Mark Thompson is the former head of the BBC and the current CEO of the company we both work

for the New York Times.

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